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	<link>http://www.freedomdreams.co.uk/blog/2008/11/01/agplmail/</link>
	<description>Ben Webb - a teenager dreaming of freedom - in computing and in life</description>
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		<title>By: fallingbullets</title>
		<link>http://www.freedomdreams.co.uk/blog/2008/11/01/agplmail/comment-page-1/#comment-12645</link>
		<dc:creator>fallingbullets</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 16:03:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow, thats ace. it works so well

thanks for sharing this :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow, thats ace. it works so well</p>
<p>thanks for sharing this <img src='http://www.freedomdreams.co.uk/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: pfctdayelise</title>
		<link>http://www.freedomdreams.co.uk/blog/2008/11/01/agplmail/comment-page-1/#comment-12640</link>
		<dc:creator>pfctdayelise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 02:27:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not much of a coder, but if this was built to a certain level of reliability, then I would use it in a flash.

I love Gmail&#039;s functionality but every few weeks I get an uncomfortable feeling about how much I am trusting (and entrusting to) Google. Bring on the freenetworkservice gmail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not much of a coder, but if this was built to a certain level of reliability, then I would use it in a flash.</p>
<p>I love Gmail&#8217;s functionality but every few weeks I get an uncomfortable feeling about how much I am trusting (and entrusting to) Google. Bring on the freenetworkservice gmail.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad Jensen</title>
		<link>http://www.freedomdreams.co.uk/blog/2008/11/01/agplmail/comment-page-1/#comment-12623</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad Jensen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 21:00:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a very cool project you have going.  So far you have a really nice start.
I agree with jhenkins that XMPP support would be awesome to have added, but that seems a ways down the road from getting the mail part top notch.

One thing that could make this more attractive than Gmail, other than that it&#039;s open source, is to get a web designer to skin it better than Gmail is. :)
Allow different colored themes that look somewhat the same, like the Gnome-color icons (brave, human, wine, and wise.)

Can you make the inbox&#039;s mail-title-lines clickable to get to an E-mail (rather than having to click on the title link itself), and/or add a hover color to the lines?

Another thing you could add to this mail manager is an option to export/backup all E-mails to a file on the desktop that can later be imported.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a very cool project you have going.  So far you have a really nice start.<br />
I agree with jhenkins that XMPP support would be awesome to have added, but that seems a ways down the road from getting the mail part top notch.</p>
<p>One thing that could make this more attractive than Gmail, other than that it&#8217;s open source, is to get a web designer to skin it better than Gmail is. <img src='http://www.freedomdreams.co.uk/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Allow different colored themes that look somewhat the same, like the Gnome-color icons (brave, human, wine, and wise.)</p>
<p>Can you make the inbox&#8217;s mail-title-lines clickable to get to an E-mail (rather than having to click on the title link itself), and/or add a hover color to the lines?</p>
<p>Another thing you could add to this mail manager is an option to export/backup all E-mails to a file on the desktop that can later be imported.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Webb</title>
		<link>http://www.freedomdreams.co.uk/blog/2008/11/01/agplmail/comment-page-1/#comment-12613</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Webb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 17:32:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Sam XMPP and raw logs are definately features we&#039;ll work on in the future. At the moment, the big problem is the way it slows down when you have about 1000 messages. I&#039;m not sure how I&#039;ll solve this.

@jhenkins I hadn&#039;t updated the db schema in the setup file... whoops. I&#039;d be grateful if you could check that the updated code works better, not sure what&#039;s wrong with settings.
I&#039;m thinking of using Savannah for my communitization. It can do git, so should be a better option than the freedom-dubious github. Hopefully I can do mailing list, bugs etc. through Savannah, and I&#039;ve also now craeted #agplmail on irc.freenode.net. It would be great if you could join me there sometime for a chat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Sam XMPP and raw logs are definately features we&#8217;ll work on in the future. At the moment, the big problem is the way it slows down when you have about 1000 messages. I&#8217;m not sure how I&#8217;ll solve this.</p>
<p>@jhenkins I hadn&#8217;t updated the db schema in the setup file&#8230; whoops. I&#8217;d be grateful if you could check that the updated code works better, not sure what&#8217;s wrong with settings.<br />
I&#8217;m thinking of using Savannah for my communitization. It can do git, so should be a better option than the freedom-dubious github. Hopefully I can do mailing list, bugs etc. through Savannah, and I&#8217;ve also now craeted #agplmail on irc.freenode.net. It would be great if you could join me there sometime for a chat.</p>
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		<title>By: jhenkins</title>
		<link>http://www.freedomdreams.co.uk/blog/2008/11/01/agplmail/comment-page-1/#comment-12609</link>
		<dc:creator>jhenkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 13:13:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

Looked at the code, had to coax it here and there to run (mainly small problems between the db schema and the PHP code accessing the database), which wasn&#039;t a train smash. Could not get the &quot;Settings&quot; bit to behave, though.

It looks good! I like the simplicity very much. In order to get a community kick-started around this project of yours, have you decided where to host it yet? It&#039;s OK to self-host, if you have the resources. Places like SourceForget and GNU Savannah have resources like CVS/Subversion, bug tracking, mailing lists and forums, which is all something you really need for community building. I see you have a WIKI set up, which is tremendously handy for collaborative documentation. So, all you need then would be a mailing list and/or forums (I say &quot;and/or&quot; because they sort-of overlap each other in terms of functionality). I think the best would be to start off with a mailing list whilst the project community takes shape, and slot in a forum system at a later stage when it becomes necessary, normally by popular demand.

Please shout if you need help with setting up listservs (I have a VPS with Bitfolk that does just about nothing) if you want to self-host.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>Looked at the code, had to coax it here and there to run (mainly small problems between the db schema and the PHP code accessing the database), which wasn&#8217;t a train smash. Could not get the &#8220;Settings&#8221; bit to behave, though.</p>
<p>It looks good! I like the simplicity very much. In order to get a community kick-started around this project of yours, have you decided where to host it yet? It&#8217;s OK to self-host, if you have the resources. Places like SourceForget and GNU Savannah have resources like CVS/Subversion, bug tracking, mailing lists and forums, which is all something you really need for community building. I see you have a WIKI set up, which is tremendously handy for collaborative documentation. So, all you need then would be a mailing list and/or forums (I say &#8220;and/or&#8221; because they sort-of overlap each other in terms of functionality). I think the best would be to start off with a mailing list whilst the project community takes shape, and slot in a forum system at a later stage when it becomes necessary, normally by popular demand.</p>
<p>Please shout if you need help with setting up listservs (I have a VPS with Bitfolk that does just about nothing) if you want to self-host.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Allen</title>
		<link>http://www.freedomdreams.co.uk/blog/2008/11/01/agplmail/comment-page-1/#comment-12602</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam Allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 04:58:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a great idea. I was considering the same thing, but since you&#039;ve started one already, congratulations!

Integrate XAMPP/Jabber support for instant mail notification with the ability to download the raw mail logs (ftp access is fine) and this could attract more attention.

I&#039;ll play with the source code when spare time allows.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a great idea. I was considering the same thing, but since you&#8217;ve started one already, congratulations!</p>
<p>Integrate XAMPP/Jabber support for instant mail notification with the ability to download the raw mail logs (ftp access is fine) and this could attract more attention.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll play with the source code when spare time allows.</p>
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		<title>By: Zach</title>
		<link>http://www.freedomdreams.co.uk/blog/2008/11/01/agplmail/comment-page-1/#comment-12598</link>
		<dc:creator>Zach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 02:27:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks good, I will have to give it a try as soon as my internet comes back up at home!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks good, I will have to give it a try as soon as my internet comes back up at home!</p>
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		<title>By: fophillips</title>
		<link>http://www.freedomdreams.co.uk/blog/2008/11/01/agplmail/comment-page-1/#comment-12563</link>
		<dc:creator>fophillips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 22:36:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks good so far, I will have a proper look at the code tomorrow.

If you want you could install gitweb on the server. If you run into trouble you should ask Zach as he has also set it up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks good so far, I will have a proper look at the code tomorrow.</p>
<p>If you want you could install gitweb on the server. If you run into trouble you should ask Zach as he has also set it up.</p>
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